Showing posts with label Phelps. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Phelps. Show all posts

Monday, August 18, 2008

IS PHELPS REALLY THE GREATEST OLYMPIAN?

BBC examines the issue of Phelps and the Greatest Olympian tag.

For some people, it's a question that's already been answered.

The greatest Olympian of all time? Michael Phelps, simply because of those unmatched 11 gold medals.

Done deal. Or is it?

By some calculations, Phelps isn't even the most successful Olympic athlete of all time. Gymnast Larissa Latynina has the bigger overall medal haul by five, even if she has a mere nine golds sprinkled in among her total of 18.

Phelps, of course, might bag another three in the next few days - but stats can only ever tell part of the story.

If we're talking Olympics, there are other factors we need to bring in - the competitiveness of the event, the difficulty of competing in multiple medal races, the era in which it took place.

Then there are the more nebulous aspects of being a great Olympian: sportsmanship, demeanour, post-career reputation.

Let's line up a few contenders.

In terms of medals alone, Carl Lewis's record is impossible to argue with: nine golds, spread over 12 years, with seven of them coming in individual events. Phelps currently has six golds from solo swims and five from relays.

Lewis also scores well for consistency, winning his first long jump gold at the age of 23 and his fourth aged 35.

Whether his golds in Los Angeles are devalued by the Eastern Bloc boycott is debatable. He had won the 100m, 4x100m and long jump at the inaugural world championships the previous year and had been ranked no.1 in the world over 100m since 1981.

What is unarguable is that he tested positive for banned substances three times before the 1988 US Olympic trials, initially being banned from the Seoul Olympics before being let off with a warning.

Lewis's own reaction - "There were hundreds of people getting off," does little to protect his reputation, and brings to mind the famous line from Ed Moses after the '84 Olympics, when he said of his team-mate: "Carl rubs it in too much. A little humility is in order."

Jesse Owens only ever had the chance to compete at one Games.

After his four golds in Berlin - and three Olympic records - he found himself banned by US authorities for running in commercial events, and eventually suffered the indignity of racing against horses to make ends meet.

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When Mark Spitz won seven gold medals I don't recall him being called "The Greatest Olympian". Now that Michael Phelps won eight, he is called one. Phelps is the greatest swimmer and the winningest Olympian of all time of course. Is it because NBC calls Phelps the greatest everyone in the world should just accept it? No way. At least not yet. I mean no disrespect to Phelps. He is a legend and a testament to hardwork and all-around good guy (at least the image that he projects) maybe now is not the right time to call him the greatest. Some people are using the term "greatest" lightly these days.

Here's Associated Press take on this matter:

Phelps was able to win eight golds in nine days because, yes, he’s the greatest Olympic swimmer of all time. It also helped that his toughest race came first in the 400 individual medley and he excelled in events that were spread out at just the right intervals.

But greatest Olympian ever? No.

Give that nod to Carl Lewis, who won nine gold medals over four Olympics, including the long jump four games in a row. Unlike Phelps, Lewis won his medals doing two very different things, using his speed to win the 100 and 200 meters and his leaping ability for the long jump.

He likely would have had even more medals but the United States boycotted the 1980 games in Moscow where Lewis had qualified in the long jump and as a member of the 400 relay team.

“I don’t want to appear to be putting Phelps down,” said David Wallechinsky, the Olympic historian who has literally written the book on the games. “But I need a little more longevity to name him the best Olympian ever.”

The people at NBC would certainly debate that because they built the first week of the Olympics around Phelps’ quest for eight golds, scoring a ratings bonanza that will pale only to the endorsements Phelps will haul in after the games.

But if George Eyser were alive and competing today, the network would have made him a hero, too, if only to tug at America’s heart. Eyser won six medals in 1904 in gymnastics, despite a left leg made of wood after his original one was run over by a train.

Wallechinsky believes a case as the greatest ever could also be made for Finland’s Paavo Nurmi, who won nine gold medals in middle- and long-distance running in the 1920s. While much has been made of the 17 times Phelps had to swim in these games, he never did anything like Nurmi did when he won both the 1500 meters and 5000 meters within two hours of each other in 1924.

Nurmi would likely have won even more, but he was banned from the 1932 games in Los Angeles on a 13-12 vote by Olympic officials who declared him a professional after he appeared in advertisements.

And who knows what Jesse Owens might have done had world events not denied him the chance to compete past the 1936 games, where he ran and jumped his way to four gold medals under political and racial pressures that Phelps never had to face.

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I'm writing this with respect to the heroes of the past who are almost forgotten. Drowned by the massive hype NBC is perpetuating to boost its ratings. I'm not blind like Kyle Fitzsimmons who despite Manny's achievement calls the latter a hype because he is a bigot. I just wish the greatest tag isn't bestowed on one who won more gold medals for other athletes don't have that opportunity.

Come to think of it, I admire Jessie Owens even more!



Sunday, August 17, 2008

AMERICANS WON?

Overpowered. Team USA overpowered purported World Champions Spain yesterday 119 - 82. Yup that's the word I could think of. Unlike, the Battle of Manila between Spain and United States, the two sides faked a battle thereby making a fool of themselves fake this game is for real and so is Team USA. Some experts expert a close fight but after seeing Spain struggle initially against China .I knew they are not cut out against the Americans. I reckon Team USA will win but by 15-20 points NOT 37 points. Spain never met a team like this one in years and I'm glad they did just to put things in perspective into where they stand in the basketball world. I'll give it to the chest pumping Americans. After all, this win will mask the beating the country has been receiving in the medal tally.

Spain tried everything. Pretty much none of it worked.

The zone? Team USA shot over it, drove the baseline against it and picked it apart.

The pick-and-roll? Spain tried it a lot early, and you know how many points its best player, Pau Gasol, had in the first 12½ minutes running it? Zero.

The press? Let's put it this way: If another team tries to use the full-court press against Team USA, it might as well just walk off the court and forfeit. Open up the court for the Americans, like the Greeks did two nights earlier and like the Spanish foolishly tried to in this one, and they'll crush you.

What made Saturday's 119-82 throttling of Spain so impressive was the way the Americans did everything so extraordinarily well. They're getting better each game, they're improving their few weak areas and the only thing that's scary about this 37-point beatdown is the notion that they might have peaked.

It's up to them to prove that they haven't, because the plane ride home is still more than a week away. But if they're going to keep bringing it like they brought it against the reigning world champions, there's no way they're going to lose.

"Twenty-eight turnovers is just a staggering number," said Gasol, whose team's field goal total matched its turnover total.

And another staggering number from the box score: The fast-break points were listed as 32-0.

"First time I've ever seen that happen," Carmelo Anthony said.

There was another astonishing number at halftime. When the U.S. had already opened a 16-point lead despite Spain shooting 58 percent from the field, the Americans had already forced 17 turnovers, and all 10 players Spain had used committed at least one.

"The only place Spain is beating us tonight is at the ashtray," NBA and USA Basketball official Brian McIntyre said outside the media entrance, where Spain's nicotine addicts had the American media outnumbered something like 15-2...for full analysis


Michael Phelps won his eighth gold medal making him the most prolific Olympian of all time.